Thanks Greg A  I get it and appreciate your thoughts and concerns. 16-18” Hitch ball size 2” 25ft 30amp electric supply cord; Spare tire & cover; Safety chains; Tires: 13” C load radial; 11 gauge steel tube frame; Extra lights and outlets available; Carpet or vinyl floor optional; Fiberglass cabinets; Crank open windows & screens Keep in mind I don't tear the tags off pillows either. It doesn't sound like a good idea. Join SOI! I'm posting my message reply to you here in case if may be helpful to anybody else. We can't recommend towing a new 13 Scamp with the specs on the Crosstek. It has a front bath, awning, A/C, and dual propane tanks. 21” 5000 Lb Hitch; Hitch Ball size 2″ 25ft 30amp electric supplycord; Spare tire & cover; Safety chains; Tires: 13” C load radial; 11 gauge steel tube frame; Extra lights and outlets available; Carpet or vinyl floor optional; Privacy Room 1997 Scamp 5th Wheel Based on my towing experience so far, I wouldn't feel comfortable towing our Scamp out west with the Forester. Not that the vehicle won't go faster, It's safer and more economical ith safety being the primary concern. Potentially can void warranty if new car, can cause insurance issues if in an accident, as well as encountering sway and potential control issues at highway speed. I am genuinely ok with a bit down on HP and slower travel speeds anyway but to be bound to 55 mph on flat land would be  a bit much. From what I’ve seen over the years 1750 to 1950 lbs is where most 13’s are going to weigh in at loaded for travel. You should weigh your trailer dry and also loaded for a trip. I'm certain you'll be over payload as well, probably a good bit. Is there a good listing of what a Scamp 13 actually weighs when empty and what the popular options add to the  base weight. So, I'll unfortunately have to eventually deviate from the Subaru line (I currently own 3) and upgrade to something with more power and torque. Deluxe 13 with front dinette. If you know the model # for fridge, AC, etc the manufacturers spec sheets will list the weight for those additions. In a headwind I can only go about 60 mph as I want to keep the engine rpms down to a manageable level (e.g., 2500 rpms); I don't like to run it at higher rpms for long periods of time. https://goo.gl/ZJP967BioLight CampStove 2https://goo.gl/pdZMsj__E L S A L I N K S__Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/elsarhaeInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/elsarhaeSnapchat: elsarhaeOther Channel: http://www.youtube.com/elsarhae12Website/Blog: http://www.elsarhae.com__M U R A L S__Hippie Mural: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_P2vb6xG58Mandala Wall Art: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDST1DzydjcGeometric Wall Paint: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7DxlebZcrk__M U S I C__YouTube Audio Database:Rhastafarian__F I L M I N G E Q U I P M E N T__-Nikon D600-Nikon 24-85mm Lens-Canon g7x-Macbook Pro 2014-Adobe Premiere Pro Hope this helps. Trailer weight was 1,830 pounds. Scamp trailers are available in 13′, 16′ and 19′ versions, whereas Casita models can either be 16′ or 17′ long. Call upon our experts to discuss whether our small, lightweight 13’ foot travel trailer is right for you or our mid-size 16’ towable camping trailer with side dinette would fit the bill, or if our largest 5th wheel travel trailers … The more space I have between me and the other traffic gives me room and time to adjust to the conditions ahead. ---  Login  ---  Logout  ---  SOI Member Profile. Our Trailers: But will likely end up giving my slot to the next lucky buyer. The weights are pretty close for each model, but will vary some with options. TV: 2009 Subaru Forester 2.5X Premium Otherwse, I can cruise at 70 mph if necessary. Trailer weight was 1,830 pounds. tow rating, presumably to make it easier on your TV and add a margin of safety in case you have to get up and go when passing, etc. Just my opinion. I still plan to stop in Backus tomorrow afternoon and look into the little scamp and factory on our way through. 2016 13 Scamp Deluxe ---  Login  ---  Logout  ---  SOI Member Profile. Download the full Scamp Travel Trailer Catalog, Scamp Owners International I have an Outback 2.5L 4 cyl with 2700# tow rating. You're not only going to be over the 1500 lbs limit, but you'll be over the tongue weight which is usually set at 10% of tow capacity. "Robert, our 2009 Subaru Forester (2.5L non-turbo) does a pretty decent job pulling our 13' Scamp Deluxe outfitted for a Scamping trip here in the upper midwest (MN-WI), with no mountains. So, with our current setup we're getting pretty close to that limit. Scamp lightweight travel trailers can’t be beat for a convenient, fun camping experience. will start looking in Ernst for a more capable tow vehicle. I took it to a local truck stop for a weight check. Installing A New Style "Flat" Scamp Door. Up to you if you want to risk it, but we officially don't recommend exceeding tow ratings even for short term. On  the weekend of the 20th I will rent a U-Haul trailer about 5X8 or 6X10 to haul her small amount of stuff including a small couch This will be a real test of the vehicle at slightly over the 1,500 but under 2,000 and real wind resistance and its affects. But not likely to be. On the Resource Menu-Buy New Scamp the floor plans and specs from Scamp Trailers are listed. Watch the NEWEST Scamp Tour Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVJ8xYTXn_I\u0026t=32sClick here to be notified when I upload new videos! - Loyd". Real world weight varies so much that we recommend weighing on truck scales in your state. Join SOI! It can be done, but not within safety margins. I talked with U-Haul last night and they had no concern with the larger 6X10  based on the vehicle but there criteria is a bit scary since it limits the trailer to 80% of the tow vehicle weight before any red flags pop up. Scamp 13 Travel Trailer Standard: Scamp 13' Standard Specifications/Features Fiberglass construction Overall length 13’ Overall height 7’ 6” Overall width 6’ 8” Interior length 10’ Interior height 6’ 3” Interior width 6’ 6” Super insulation (R15) 30 amp power converter 12 volt lighting Ice box standard 12 gallon fresh water tank Sleeps one to four Table converts to bed Sofa Will it physically pull it, yes, but it's quite a bit outside the stated tow ratings for the vehicle. © Copyright 2013 Scamp provides only basic safety features, whereas Casita trailers have advanced safety features. A vehicle's, any vehicle, handling & vision are severely reduced, and stopping distance is increased when towing. Finally, my wife will be retiring next Spring, and I've got another year or two, after which we plan on taking a lot of Scamping trips to more mountainous areas, where I think the Forester just won't cut it. Yes, I was a little surprised, but the wood cabinets I think add significant weight, followed by the A/C, awning and, of course, the propane. Some charge a small fee and some states leave the scales on and are no charge. Totally bummed and sick over the reality. Can I suffer thru a season of local stuff and short flat lander trips until a heavier duty vehicle can be purchased for any real trips?? Beside what I have just described, the Scamp had no gear in it, and the freshwater tank, gray water and black water tanks were empty. We bought our 2016 13' Deluxe Scamp used this past March. The Crosstrek has 1500#. Again , I think the wood cabinets on our Deluxe add quite a bit of weight; if we had a  Standard, I think the towing experience would be better. SOI (Scamp Owners International) is not sponsored or supported by, nor is there any relationship with Scamp Travel Trailers or Eveland, Inc. Also, after reading the more recent replies to this thread, I'd have to agree with others in that towing even a 13' Standard with the Crosstrek may not be a good idea. I've read a rule of thumb that one shouldn't exceed 80% of their max. Watch the NEWEST Scamp Tour Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVJ8xYTXn_I&t=32s Click here to be notified when I upload new videos! Robert, sorry I missed your reply, but I just respond to your PM. SOI (Scamp Owners International) is not sponsored or supported by, nor is there any relationship with Scamp Travel Trailers or Eveland, Inc. Reducing power consumption - LED Lighting, Choosing the right battery solution for solar, Selecting Solar Panels for Scamp Trailers, Molded Fiberglass Trailer Gathering Bandon OR 2014, Molded Fiberglass Gathering Bandon, OR 2013, Molded Fiberglass Gathering Bandon, OR 2009, Off to Branson, Mo in the Scamp 5th Wheel. SOI (Scamp Owners International) is not sponsored or supported by, nor is there any relationship with Scamp Travel Trailers or Eveland, Inc. like everyone there is only so many nickles to go around. I am probably beating a dead horse about weight and tow vehicle But what is your impression of the forester's ability to tow your scamp. Web Design --- Privacy Policy Our 1981 standard 13 loaded for a trip hit 1861lbs Tongue weight was close to 200 lbs with single tank and battery. So, pretty much the "factory" Scamp  except for the propane in the tanks. Approximate weight 1200-1500; 2200 pound torsion axle; Hitch weight 100 pounds; Hitch height approx. At the time we bought it both propane tanks were mostly full. :). tongue weight is 200#. I realize that are all slightly different and accessories make all the difference. Payload also becomes a problem when pushing tow ratings, two people in the tow usually maxes it with nothing left to carry any gear. Thanks seems that 1,200 to 1,500 is a fairly large range. Minnesota. A real world test to determine if I can safely/confidently  get from Backus to south of Chicago. © Copyright 2013 If you like the idea of a small, light weight travel trailer camper without the inconvenient setup, then the Scamp 13” is the perfect lite travel trailer for you. Approximate weight 1750-2000; 3500 pound torsion axle; 10″ Electric brakes; Hitch weight 165 pounds; Hitch height approx. For a 13 Scamp we never recommend towing with any vehicle rated less than 2500 lbs. 2015 19 Escape. So, pretty much the "factory" Scamp except for the propane in the tanks. 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